Topic [235] To all accurate Remote Viewers TKR Remote Viewing Forum December 2003

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d_redant, somewhere around December 20, 2003

Hello,

I found you on the Internet today.

I would like you to be a remote viewer/ psychic for me in my newly established and fast growing online business.. Check it out:

http://remoteviewing.nexuswebs.net/

There is immense profit with this Remote Viewing & Psychic Ability as you can see and my web site is getting very popular. I would like you to work with me and we will handle the customers and split the profit 50/50.

You will also be required to be my personal Remote Viewer and Psychic.

If you have doubts I ask you to Remote View the future of this web site and you will see that it is going to be very popular and will bring us profit.. and it is already raking in tons of customers ( I have 3-4 pending customers already)

I have already started to get clients but I need completely accurate Remote Viewer / Psychic to work with in this venture.

Please reply soon

remoteviewingconsulting@yahoo.com

admin, somewhere around December 20, 2003

For the record, this individual contacted me through Firedocs, and here is the response I sent it:


I understand your position.  However, most viewers will not even talk seriously to someone as a tasker until they know  quite a bit of detail about you, the operation, et al. and feel  trust both in you and what you are doing.  

If you want to find viewers worth having, you'll need to make an effort to provide that.  You cannot pop up without a name  and without any real info and expect viewers to do anything  you ask.  Most viewers, by nature of their RV experience, are  actually very reserved and careful about their taskings, as  well as about their identities and the potential for misuse their  viewing can provide others.

So, I cannot simply sign people up for you.  You have to find them yourself.  And if you ask on any public list I know of,  most viewers will jump your case and demand all the sorts of   information I mentioned above.  You have no idea how many  people want viewers to view 'their' special taskings, or assure  them that there's money involved or it's 'real' operations and  they'll get part of it, etc.  Everybody wants to use viewers and  few take the time to figure out what it's all about first, and  create a situation that engenders respect.

I tell you this in the hopes it helps you, of course, not to be brutal.

PJ

Gene_Smith, somewhere around December 21, 2003

Hi d_redant,

Well I must admit that reading your post numerous times, not really beleiveing my eyes at first, examining your web site, then pondering your plans and the ideas behind it all left me nothing short of amazed; and not just amazed but in the words of Presidential hopeful John F. Kerry... well lets just say "very" amazed.

As I see it there seems to be three major requirements in the special individual you seek.  First the person needs to be, and for brevity I'll just quote you directly: "I need completely accurate Remote Viewer / Psychic".  Secondly you need someone who fully appreciates that: "There is immense profit with this Remote Viewing & Psychic Ability".  And lastly you need someone willing to submit to higher authority as they: "will also be required to be my personal Remote Viewer and Psychic."


When using the descriptor of "completely accurate" in the remote viewing world, I doubt but that one name would leap from the lips of most in our field.  I would not be exaggerating to use the word legendary in describing the accuracy for which he is known.  In regards to your second requirement I believe he has some minddazzling real world experience.  But I'm sure he would eschew the term "psychic" and I fear he would have a "Major" problem when it came to submissive.


But alas, you need not give up hope in finding your ideal, for there may be one that would meet all your needs.  One who learned at the knee of the "Master" himself, yet as all good students do has far surpassed him in both word and deed.  One who has openly and repeatedly remote viewed the lottery producing a stupefying list of ticket numbers to purchase.  One of whom it has been said in print is the best remote viewer on the planet.  And you don't have to just take his word for it either; ask his sister, or even his dad for that matter, they'll confirm it.  Lastly and perhaps key, one who has demostrated the ability to submit.  Here is where he clearly differentiates himself from everyone else in this field.  For he has publically, and apparently without thought to self, made the ultimate sacrifice. Subjugating not only his powers and skill to another but one might say even his very soul, to an ideal and being he considered most worthy of his work.  

So to return to where I started, in the pondering of your post; I can not imagine a better person for you to pursue.  Yet having a mercernary bent myself, well frankly I hesitate to just offer his name free of charge.  And as you said yourself where this business of yours appears destined for great sucess, surely you wouldn't consider some remuneration to extend beyond the bounds of simple good tastes.  To that end, not being an overly greedy type, I would also consider a substantial endowment to some future RV contests here on TKR as an alternative.

Please do let me know your thoughts.

Sincerely,
Gene Smith  

admin, somewhere around December 21, 2003

I'll underbid his commission by $1.99.  PayPal accepted.

You agree to indemnify and hold harmless myself and my business from any results or lack thereof from my suggested Glorious And Completely Accurate Remote Viewer, and any unexpected side effects this might entail, including the loss of your soul.  ;-)

PJ

T-bone, somewhere around December 24, 2003

d_redant,

In a nutshell you gota be freaking (not my first choice of words) kidding me.  You need "completly accurate" remote viewers?  LOL Right!  Well let me clue you in hun, (I do know your female) NOBODY is completly accurate!  Even Cheif McMoneagle misses from time to time, and to me HE IS the BEST THERE IS!  

And by the way, I would have concidered helping you IF you were not motivated BY GREED!  If and when you decide to help people because its the right thing to do, and not for profit, let me know.

And yes, for your information, I AM GOOD, and I don't need to go arround proving it by being  someones "personal" psychic/RV'er.

Tigr50, somewhere around December 24, 2003

Hi there:
Now, I like to see RV out in the open, but this is a little over-the-top.  More than a little, actually.  (Sorry...been away for awhile and decided to check in.)  My own psychic whispers tell me this is a bit peculiar in fact. The web-page was a 2-hour job, at most.  What's the hurry, one asks?   ;)

The_Spook, somewhere around December 29, 2003

Uh...remind me sometime to tell you about Nigerian 419 scams and...uh....well, just remind me .....   ;-)

Tigr50, somewhere around December 30, 2003

Spooky:
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
I think we've all received those Nigerian "hide the money bank transfer" letters.  Before email, they came in scrawley handwritten notes to the University where I used to work.  I heard one guy actually went to Nigeria to collect his funds and, shall we say, was terminated with indifference.  
Deb

d_redant, somewhere around April 20, 2009

Well it's been about 5+ years since I last posted this message.

It's been a long time allowing me to grow in learning and experiencing RV.

I'm happy to say that I did manifest exactly what I wanted in a mutually beneficial situation for me, clients & remote viewers. A situation where everyone is happy and grateful for the blessings of abundance.

You see I never had a doubt about what I wanted to accomplish.

It did not matter what anyone else thought or believed.

Not meaning to offend anyone here but only to empower others to follow their dreams.

You can see the product of my many years of experience and connection building at http://www.remoteviewers.eu

We do have an operating team which has been taking Remote Viewing cases for years and all clients are happy.

I'm no longer seeking that 'one' accurate remote viewer or any other viewers for that matter.

But if there is any highly accurate & practiced RVer who can view targets Blind and/or Frontloaded then use the contact form at http://www.remoteviewers.eu

And yes it is possible to gain a very high level of accuracy. No matter what anyone else says. All it takes is years of practice, training and adaptation. And most importantly the WILL and determination to succeed.

If you believe you can't ever accomplish this highest level of accuracy then you have some beliefs to change first.

Much peace and love to everyone here and thanks for your constructive criticism.

huffd, somewhere around April 20, 2009

Well d_redant you stepped in it this time.

You went messing with someone with a photographic memory and got caught.

Your history page is plagiarized from Paul H. Smith's site.

ref.
http://www.remoteviewers.eu/history.html
ref.
http://www.rviewer.com/How_Did_RV_Begin.html

Come on! A little cut and paste giving sources..but geeze man the whole damn page?

I've got copies of the history.html, if it should disappear and someone disputes what I found. ;)

Sorry, my memory nor my services are for sale to the likes of you..

Mycroft

d_redant, somewhere around April 20, 2009

O wow I got caught.

Since you're on a roll why don't you contact Paul Smith and notify him of this huge huge crime.

Have your day. I am not here to argue with you.

You choose to not see the merit of achievement but rather seek to find faults.

That is okay.

As I said I am not seeking rvers anymore.

And thanks for bringing that to my attention. The site is going through a reworking process currently.

Jon_Knowles, somewhere around April 20, 2009

Hi d_redant,

I see from your website that your project manager is Bambielinn Reed Zeddis. I don't know if you are she, but I recall hearing and briefly talking to Bambielinn (thought it was Bambie) at Lyn Buchanan's conference on Project Management in Concord a few years ago. She was there with a coworker, out of Simeon Hein's training and Mt. Baldy, as I recall.

As mentioned in a previous post, copying a page for one's web site without attribution does raise one's eyebrows. On the other hand, establishing a legitimate non-teaching business in RV is not easy task at all, and if you have accomplished that, then congratulations to you.

As Lyn helped those taking his course with his experience and perspectives on project management, perhaps you could share some of what has worked for you. For example, could you share (sanitized) reports on one or more projects? We might learn something from your approach. Also, whether Simeon Hein's resonance RV is your mainstay, you have devised a variant, or if you use a variety of methods? If you are able to find locations?  I'm sure there are plenty of subjects here that many of us who frequent this board would be interested in hearing more about. Legitimate successful non-teaching RV businesses in the US are so rare you can count them on the fingers of your hands - maybe one hand. :)

I realize it may not be easy to share one's projects and work, and put that online, for a variety of reasons. I am part of a group which has been working together for three years now, and we have only posted a bit of it ourselves thus far.

In re Mt. Baldy, which you mention on your web site, I have met Simeon Hein and talked with him briefly some years ago. I'd definitely like to see any reports of projects that he/you'll could post as well. I've looked at his Youtube videos - pretty interesting!

Best wishes,
Jon

d_redant, somewhere around April 20, 2009

Hi,

Nope I am not Bambie but it does sound like the same person who you met at the conference. In fact if you PM me your real name (if it isn't Jon Knowles) I can find out if she remembers you.

She has been with the Remote Vewing Consulting team (http://www.remoteviewers.eu) for more than 5 years.

I'm basically the IT Consultant for the site. I handle all technical/computer/internet aspects for the team as I have been doing for the past years.

Bambie is one of many project managers on the team.

It's a large team and the majority of members prefer to remain anonymous to the public (for their own reasons).

As for past projects being disclosed all I can say is have some patience and the website will reflect some case studies in due course though this is not guranteed (still in discussions stage)

As for techniques being disclosed that's also not possible at this time but maybe in the future.

The Remote Viewers may eventually start to offer courses based on their many years of experience in the field.

When the website is re-done finally I will notify everyone here.

I'm just so busy right now.

Jon_Knowles, somewhere around April 20, 2009

Hi again,

Well, it certainly sounds like you've got something good going - best of luck.

How about locations, can you do these? I mean get within a mile or two, or even less. If so, and you have some testimonials or other evidence, I might be interested in contracting your team at some point, depending of course on the rates. I hired a dowser for one project since with RV it has been found, generally, that getting geo locations is very very difficult. However, the highly recommended dowser was way off (by 30 miles in an area 100 or so miles wide). Our viewing team came up with data that was much much closer than that (5 miles, 1 mile, 250 feet).

You didn't mention Simeon Hein - what is he up to these days?

Also, can you at least say something about your range of clients? Types of work done. (I see you list a lot of subjects/areas that you cover.) Do you do pro bono, humanitarian work? If so, could you provide any info on some of that work?

I am asking again here because it could help the field if you are ahead of the curve in some or even many areas. And, so many make so many claims, but little if anything is ever shown to back it up.

Another basic question is: Do you database viewer strengths and weaknesses, a la Lyn Buchanan? That was certainly one of his main themes at his Project Management Conference. (At this point, we do not database, that is; compile percentages in Access. Databasing does raise many questions - who does it, the criteria, how you construct your database, what counts as a hit, what about symbolic data, etc.)

Cheers,
Jon
(I didn't speak at Lyn Buchanan's conference and doubt Bambie would recall me. We spoke only briefly.)

d_redant, somewhere around April 21, 2009

We don't do location views currently, however, we do add location data to views centering on other data.

Simeon is doing great.  He's still teaching remote viewing and  promoting his books.  I'll tell him you inquired.

At this time I cannot at say much about the range of clients.  However, we have a good cross spectrum of data being produced for clients.

No pro bono is being accepted.  We have done many, many humanitarian works both with groups and with specific viewers, but we are not currently accepting them, except for a rare case or two.

I did mention above that additional info is planned and will be added to the site in due course.  We appreciate your interest and your patience as we continue to upgrade our site and the information available.

Please respect that nothing else will be revealed/released before it's time, maintaining integrity in RV is highly significant to us.  We will go public with our information when it is most effective and we are ready to address the response in this manner.

Yes, we have scored many views using Lynn's scoring system, but have not  put them on a database.

We have been using Excel to track the data for each view in the practice sets.

Our viewers have been doing this in practice sets since a meeting wth Lynn Buchanan in the parking lot at the Oasis Casino in Mesquite, NV, I believe in was in 2000 or 2001 and he gave them scoring sheet with a brief explanation. 

Viewing and Scoring are very intense and time consuming effort.  Worthy but consuming. Good idea though. We are including this as part of our plans and will do this in the future.

Jon_Knowles, somewhere around April 21, 2009

Thanks for the feedback on what your group has been doing.

[quote]We don't do location views currently, however, we do add location data to views centering on other data.[/quote]

Sounds like what we do. We are using Google Earth and Google Maps/street view a bit - great tools - but having someone on the ground at the scene can make a huge difference, and that is of course rare.

[quote]Simeon is doing great.  He's still teaching remote viewing and  promoting his books.  I'll tell him you inquired.[/quote]

I know he has done a lot of work with resonance viewing and with crop circles. I've read his books as well. I see he has taught in Japan at times too. If he has done any further research or articles, I'd very much like to see them.

[quote]No pro bono is being accepted.  We have done many, many humanitarian works both with groups and with specific viewers, but we are not currently accepting them, except for a rare case or two.[/quote]

Sounds good. We have done more humanitarian/pro bono than commercial at this point, and that is more our overall aim.

[quote]I did mention above that additional info is planned and will be added to the site in due course.  We appreciate your interest and your patience as we continue to upgrade our site and the information available.
[/quote]

I'll certainly check it out and will add it to my blog, which at this point is mainly links to over 100 RV sites.
http://mprview.blogspot.com/

[quote]Please respect that nothing else will be revealed/released before it's time, maintaining integrity in RV is highly significant to us.  We will go public with our information when it is most effective and we are ready to address the response in this manner.[/quote]

I'm looking forward to seeing what you have accomplished.

[quote]Yes, we have scored many views using Lynn's scoring system, but have not  put them on a database. / We have been using Excel to track the data for each view in the practice sets. / Our viewers have been doing this in practice sets since a meeting wth Lynn Buchanan in the parking lot at the Oasis Casino in Mesquite, NV, I believe in was in 2000 or 2001 and he gave them scoring sheet with a brief explanation. / Viewing and Scoring are very intense and time consuming effort.  Worthy but consuming. Good idea though. We are including this as part of our plans and will do this in the future.[/quote]

I see Lyn Buchanan and Coleen Marenich are presenting on this topic at the upcoming IRVA Conference. Lyn pushes hard for this all the time, but so far few if any others have adopted it.

Cheers,
Jon

Omega, somewhere around April 22, 2009

;-) Do I hold my breath and count to 10 before I see some reports ? ;-)

;)

I for one would really like to see something ( sanitised, of course ) in this order

Can I ask how many Viewers you have within this group ?

regards

PsiSpy

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