Topic [175] Good Books on Psi (and more) TKR Remote Viewing Forum September 2003

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Fire, somewhere around September 14, 2003

Russell Targ's website has been updated recently with a couple more reasons to turn off the screen and curl up with a good book.

The most recent addition to the Russell Targ Editions of Hampton Roads Publishing is Dr. Jacques Vallee's The Heart of the Internet: An Insider's View of the Origin and Promise of the On-Line Revolution.  Vallee is best know to me for his research in UFOlogy but is a serious scientist with a ton of credentials and published writings in astrophysics, computers, finance and more.  His book is featured here: [url]http://www.espresearch.com/heartoftheinternet/[/url]

That is a bit outside the normal topic for books Targ features.  Other books on the website that remote viewers might find of special interest are:

Mind to Mind, by René Warcollier. This is the fellow whose research came up with ideograms; this is required reading.
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/mindtomind/[/url]

An Experiment With Time, by J.W. Dunne.
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/experimentwithtime/[/url]

Mental Radio, by Upton Sinclair.
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/mentalradio/[/url]

Experiments in Mental Suggestion, by L.L. Vasiliev
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/mentalsuggestion/[/url]

Mind at Large: IEEE Symposia on the Nature of Extrasensory Perception, Edited by Charles T. Tart, Harold E. Puthoff, Russell Targ
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/mindatlarge/[/url]

Dream Telepathy, by Montague Ullman, M.D. and Stanley Krippner, Ph.D. with Alan Vaughan
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/dreamtelepathy/[/url]

Human Personality and Its Survival of Bodily Death, by F.W.H. Myers
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/survival/[/url]

And Targ's own most recent two books:

Miracles of Mind: Exploring Non-Local Consciousness and Spiritual Healing, by Russell Targ and Jane Katra, Ph.D.
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/miraclesofmind/[/url]

The Heart of the Mind: How to Experience God Without Belief, by Jane Katra, Ph.D. and Russell Targ
[url]http://www.espresearch.com/heartofthemind/[/url]

mindchild, somewhere around September 14, 2003

Thank's for the update  :)  

I've read two of the books from the list, Russell Targ's books and am looking forward to reading the rest of the books he has listed there.  

I'm currently reading Skip Atwater's book and just finished Joe's "The Star Gate Chronicles" .  Way cool to see your name in the Acknowledgements  ;-)  That IS you, right?

Laurie

Rocheleh, somewhere around September 14, 2003

If you read in Hungarian, Zoltan Vassy's books are a good read, I like his style plus he's solid on the science, methodology etc. part. (He's a physicist originally, but he's been doing parapsychology research for 10+ years now, I don't know exactly how many, with the "big boys".)

Utazas Paramerikaba (1st edition title: Racionalitason innen es tul) - this one describes his experiences as a guest researcher in Princeton; about half of the book is about psi research, the rest about everyday life in the United States as he saw it. Back then, Hungarian accounts of such were fairly rare, as the book was originally published in 1989. It got published again two months or so ago.

Complete text available online! (He himself uploaded it to one of the major Hungarian e-text archives, back when there was no reissue in sight.)
http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/human/turizmus/paramer/

A parapszichologia tudomanyos iranyzata - this little handbook describes scientific parapsychology to the complete layperson, slightly dated (1989? possibly even earlier?) but I'd say still an excellent read. A good short summary of the field.

...yeah, so, if you don't speak Hungarian these are completely useless, but if you do, they're an absolute must. I'd be hard-pressed to find any other book on real, scientific parapsychology, as opposed to New Age stuff, in Hungarian. Eysenck & Sargent's Explaining the Unexplained was published a long time ago, but aside that... let me think. (I'm at my family's place, not at mine, and I don't have my bookshelf on me ;-) )

Rachel

Rocheleh, somewhere around September 14, 2003

Just as I re-read PJ's original post...

Two Vasilyev books were published in Hungarian, before the fall of the Iron Curtain, and they're hard to find. I have only read one, and I'd say it had interest only as a historical document. (People have been telling me the other's better, but I have yet to find it. I guess this latter one's the same one as PJ linked, containing his research on long-distance hypnosis.)

Anyone read that book... in English, don't turn away yet!! ;-) ... Ostrander and Schroeder: PSI - Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. I have it lying around, but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Is it a sensation-journalism piece, or something more than that?

energycritter, somewhere around September 15, 2003

[quote]Russell Targ's website has been updated recently with a couple more reasons to turn off the screen and curl up with a good book.
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I wish it was that simple...... ;-)

Now if I could get the TV on/off switch to be linked to my daughter finishing college and then being with her husband and the house being less active and whatnot, then that would be great..... ::)

I could then Just go turn off the screen, then, wham......daughter is finished with college, her and her husband living across town and the house quite and inactive.....let the reading begin.....OK, not yet, but, in a few more years.......then I can read until my head explodes...... ::)  By that time the list of books to read will be huge....yeeee hawwww :o

BC/EC

admin, somewhere around September 15, 2003

Hi Laurie,

[quote]and just finished Joe's "The Star Gate Chronicles".  Way cool to see your name in the Acknowledgements  ;-)  That IS you, right?[/quote]
That's me.  Joe and his wife are good friends.

PJ

PS Rocheleh, I'm lucky to read english.  I wish I were half as multi-lingual as you obviously are!  Hey you know what, Zoltan is part of the presentiment response research Ed May is also working on right now and since that's current research he might be willing to talk about it if you bring it up in class.  Also, May is in Hungary as much as he's in the US or India (or many other countries) lately, so you might end up meeting him eventually too--maybe you could talk Z.V. into having him in as a guest speaker. ;-)

PJ

Rocheleh, somewhere around September 15, 2003

Today was his first class, he's a good speaker :)

Yeah, I've heard Ed May's been here a couple times, but that much time, and he'll be back?! Whoa! :o

I'll definitely talk Z.V. into doing that, and also ask about this line of research; he seems to enjoy discussing his research rather deeply, methods, factoring, etc. and pointing out small interesting things.

One other project he's currently working on is a longitudinal survey of Hungarian freshman university students, and their beliefs on psi, occult ideas, and decent scientific ideas that sound slightly unusual (like hypnosis, or black holes); and how the students differentiate between them, that is IF they differentiate at all  ;-) The survey's done every six or seven years, and this year it's due, so he's already working on it. He showed us some of the previous data (I'd read about it before, it was published somewhere - maybe in some local psychology journal - but not in this much detail).

Rachel

mindchild, somewhere around September 16, 2003

Hey PJ,
That is SO cool and wonderful  that you are friends with the McMoneagles!  I'm really tempted to dissolve into inarticulate fan babble at this point,  but trying not to do that  ;-)

I appreciated so much your posting of comments by Joe on another thread.  Just another way this group is awesome!   Hoping for more of the same when you and he have time for it.

Meanwhile, thanks again for pointing to the book list.   I currently have a lot of time to read, so I'm making the most of it and will be ordering from there soon.

Laurie

energycritter, somewhere around September 16, 2003

[quote] I'm really tempted to dissolve into inarticulate fan babble at this point,  but trying not to do that  ;-)

Laurie
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That is a crack up....I know exactly what you mean....too funny...."dissolve into inarticulate fan babble"....so that is what I need to call that experience... ::)

BC/EC

mindchild, somewhere around September 16, 2003

;-)

energycritter, somewhere around September 16, 2003

From now on it will be refered to as DIIFB....disolve into inarticulate fan babble.......or IFB for short....he he

well, there could also be AFB...articulate fan babble...but, if you are articulate, then the level of fan is lower.... ;)

;-)

polkadotpuhjommies, somewhere around September 16, 2003

or there could be NMCFYIYDSB

[move](no more caffine for you if you don't stop babbling :P  :P  ;)) [/move]

energycritter, somewhere around September 16, 2003

OCOIJSASCWHCIIT

Oh, come on, I just started a second cup with hot chocolate in it too....

;-)

admin, somewhere around September 16, 2003

Stop, yer cracking me up!  I have enough drool of my own thanks.  (No but really: you can begin addressing me as 'Sits Near O Mighty One' if you prefer.)  -)on't let it rub off, I'm only who I am--I can't take any glory for Joe's reputation in this field.  He is a friend of mine but our friendship isn't based on RV, although that was my introduction to him, of course.  I do think he's one of the most extraordinary human beings I've had the honor of knowing, but actually, none of that is based on his viewing.  (Although his viewing might have contributed to some of his qualities.)  His wife is pretty awesome too, as you might imagine, birds of a feather and all that.

I'm sort of laughing, because recently by circumstance I very briefly met via email Jacques Vallee, whom I admire so much I felt completely type-tied (is that the right translation?).  I sent him to my blog to see the s/w, which JUST so happens to have right there an entry waxing poetic about him!  I'm so embarrassed!  I mean talk about timing, what are the odds.

I'm reminded of a good buddy of mine from nearly 20 years ago.  He was a rock guitarist/singer/songwriter, really fabulous, down in Ventura/Los Angeles in CA.  This guy was beholden to nobody for skill, but one day he's in a store and he sees Joni Mitchell.  He was a gigantic fan of the woman--in fact it was he who gave me her tape "Blue," as I didn't know much of her, she's amazing.  A couple decades of everything he ever wanted to say to her all attempted to rush out of him at the same instant, resulting in him leering over her mumbling semi-incoherently, "swdfpowaqwknaslfknuasdfOVE YOU!" ;-)  He was so embarrassed he just put his hands over his face and walked away! ;-)

PJ

energycritter, somewhere around September 17, 2003

[quote]I'm sort of laughing, because recently by circumstance I very briefly met via email Jacques Vallee, whom I admire so much I felt completely type-tied (is that the right translation?).  I sent him to my blog to see the s/w, which JUST so happens to have right there an entry waxing poetic about him!  I'm so embarrassed!  I mean talk about timing, what are the odds.

I'm reminded of a good buddy of mine from nearly 20 years ago.  He was a rock guitarist/singer/songwriter, really fabulous, down in Ventura/Los Angeles in CA.  This guy was beholden to nobody for skill, but one day he's in a store and he sees Joni Mitchell.  He was a gigantic fan of the woman--in fact it was he who gave me her tape "Blue," as I didn't know much of her, she's amazing.  A couple decades of everything he ever wanted to say to her all attempted to rush out of him at the same instant, resulting in him leering over her mumbling semi-incoherently, "swdfpowaqwknaslfknuasdfOVE YOU!" ;-)  He was so embarrassed he just put his hands over his face and walked away! ;-)

PJ[/quote]

whew................it's good to know that everyone seems to be capable of getting a little type-tied, poeticly waxxy and inarticulately babblicious every so often, or, every time they relate to the objec uf deir effesionsuwdshbsda owiegczoiub weica dhsadeasf wedufcbn saepinb piew pvcipurje iuediyu ghi

Acocdrnig to an elgnsih unviesitry sutdy the oredr of letetrs in a wrod dosen't mttaer, the olny thnig thta's iopmrantt is that the frsit and lsat ltteer of eevry word is in the crcreot ptoision. The rset can be jmbueld and one is stlil able to raed the txet wiohtut dclftfuiiy.

dat do giv us hope.......

ergnytirictrtr

PS, PJ, what is a blog....?

T-bone, somewhere around September 17, 2003

What really bothers me here is I actualy understood all that bable...   :P ;-)

Ahhh... the wonders of caffine!

energycritter, somewhere around September 17, 2003

Coffee helps, but, come on....tell the truth....its the fan deep in you that makes the babble so readable.....huh... ::)

;)
;-)
;)

ectytiregiir

mindchild, somewhere around September 17, 2003

You guys are so much fun, what a kick!  ;-)  

I guess it can happen to us all, getting type-tied (love that), brainfogged, speech dyslexia... ::)

Fan babble will never be the same for me now!!  If I have a chance to do it again, I'll think of you guys and end up laughing through my babble!!!!! That'll  make an impression...

EC, how do you DO that?!  Your gibberish is understandable......ummm......should I be worried? ;-)

Laurie

energycritter, somewhere around September 17, 2003

 ;-)

admin, somewhere around September 17, 2003

EC if you're not careful I am going to pull rank and move any of your messages that mention me and/or that have little more than a one-liner or smiley-face, into binary oblivion.  I am certain the board at large would be better for losing both--and I am just that mean, too!  (PJ the Evil Empress!)  You see and here you thought I was NICE.  Just goes to show you what kind of insidious wickness can lurk behind internet personalities.

I got a whole bunch of books from a dear friend of mine the other day so I will be reporting on them as I read them, I hope others here have read them as well.  Oh, if nothing else, you guys tell me what you think of the new interior site design for espresearch.com (the site this thread began with).  I am really lucky to have clients like I do who in many cases just let me do whatever flips my wig with their websites.

At some point, maybe when Eric gets back online regularly, we want to make a 'book club' section specifically for discussion of various books and the points in them.

Which reminds me that the drawing on the right side of the brain project is waiting to happen and pdPJ was wonderful to send me a bunch of example line art, which I, being either rude and antisocial or overworked lately, forget to look at during the moments I have time!  Aaack!  Well I will SOON, I promise.

I am ALMOST past the no-sleep mode in my 'real' job, to have a little more time to revise the TKR practice and project galleries, to make it possible for hrvg's unique system to work within it.  Sorry for more delay, I was nearly done til I realized that.  My fault for not planning better to begin with, but as I'm not familiar with the method it hadn't occurred to me.  Anyway it shouldn't be too long now.

In the meantime, tonight is 'library night' with my little girl, where I get to give back my whole big bag of books and get more.  Considering my library has maybe 10 books total on every anomalous topic combined, I think I might have to donate something, just so there is an option!  I am almost afraid to suggest it lest the library staff discuss me with their fundie churches, lol. ;-)

PJ

admin, somewhere around September 17, 2003

Oooh!  That sounded even MEANer when I re-read it.  It just really embarrasses me is all....   :-[

PJ

polkadotpuhjommies, somewhere around September 17, 2003

UH OH...... :o :o  I had a few swigs of EC's special brew and look what happened.....  :-/

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.  The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouth it bnieg a porbelm.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.   :P ;-)

(which is why EC typos  ::) are not a problem  ;)  )

energycritter, somewhere around September 23, 2003

[quote]Which reminds me that the drawing on the right side of the brain project is waiting to happen and pdPJ was wonderful to send me a bunch of example line art[/quote]

I should be able to find time soon to try and fix the scanner settings so that I can e-mail the drawings that I have collected.

I do not remember what thread the drawing thing was originally on, Oh well.

I have a few drawings here at work that I need to try and scan from here, the settings on this work scanner are already working OK for e-mail....I just have to fit that into my day without having people ask, "what are you doing, scanning drawings for RV practice, OH, I see?"

Yea, I wish it was that simple to tell people what I do for fun.

BC/EC

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