Topic [164] When Sessions Go Bad - The Causes & Remedy TKR Remote Viewing Forum September 2003

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Tunde, somewhere around September 3, 2003

Some of you have already commented abit about what
you feel may make your session go super bad in other
excellent threads.

For instance one area that i think IMO is a major
factor is the ideograms and how we interprete them.

For instance a straight line ideogram is supposed to indicate Land and most times this is true however
ive found that its not always the case. A straight
line ideogram in all 3 scans (TDS) could just as easily
turn out to be a subject.

It takes alot of practice and nerve to discount
what your ideograms are saying and just concerntrate
on decoding them regardless of the initial structure
of the Ideogram.

So even though your target was a subject
yet you came up an island and your
ideogram seems to back the island data
Your island theorectically should and could have been
the subject. Thats why its so important to
go over the entire session data  constantly as its
never too late to get back on track.

Ive also noticed that sometimes the
"island" could take up features of the
intended "Subject" target ie large,small,  important,
well known, pretty, famous, movement, soft
sunny , bright, (if the subect is happy or the focal point
of attention at the target) like wise the opposite
could pop up. like desolate, alone,  windy , rain,
cloudy, rocky, jaggered ..to indicate a negative subject etc...
But because are feedback shows a subject we feel we
have failed woefully but have you really ?

So dont trust those ideograms too easily :-)
Just simply decode decode decode or better still
paractice practice practice  ::)

Anyone else want to share their RV experiences and
possible remedies?

Peace,
Tunde

admin, somewhere around September 3, 2003

Hi Tunde,

I think that is the danger of any step in any methodology which forces you into a 'conclusion' about what the target is--especially so early in the session.  But as long as the methodology doesn't then expect you to describe your conclusion--if you just go on collecting info and it matches or it doesn't--it's probably alright.  It's when a method makes you conclude something early on, and then a bit later expects you to describe specifically what you concluded, it's worrisome.  Because then, if it was wrong--and at that early point, it might be, or it might be something different than expected--the whole session is torqued.

It's been my experience that ideograms can mean many things, and they can represent topological shapes or portions of them, as well as gestalts.  Besides, they often change over time (unless one works in a method that forbids that and pre-defines the shapes).

Most session failures, with some bizarre exceptions, can be tracked to a mistake in the session, usually some slight AOL.  (I find the whole aol thing to be much more subtle than normally exampled. The major aol things are usually easy to prevent with some experience. It's the subtle ones that git ya. ;-))

PJ

Arlene, somewhere around September 3, 2003

Hello Tunde,

[quote]For instance one area that i think IMO is a major
factor is the ideograms and how we interprete them.

For instance a straight line ideogram is supposed to indicate Land and most times this is true however
ive found that its not always the case.  [/quote]

I agree, but as we all know many viewers use them religiously. When I first started I never used ideograms. That's not the way I was taught. Since I did ok the way I was doing it, I just did it that way.

Then I attended the 2002 Conferences. Many of the presenters there mentioned that was the way to start a session. Sooooooo, I started doing it. It totally threw me off. I would start AOL'ing like crazy. I guess because I figured it was supposed to tell me something, I tried to make it.

Once when I did a target with an ideogram. I had all my data gathered, but I drew the photo from the feeling I got from the ideogram. The only right thing about it was that it was tall...high. The ideogram led me to think it was a building, in turn I added streets , cars, traffic etc. So, everything I gathered up till the point I decided to make it a building was right, then I think I just started creating a vision.

Arlene

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