Topic [173] Two people sharing same target intent TKR Remote Viewing Forum September 2003

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energycritter, somewhere around September 11, 2003

Has anyone measured any increase in data results by combining efforts of two people at the same time while they both sat facing each other and focused on the same target? Maybe even holding hands if that helps.

I am not sure, just wondering out load.

I guess this would fall under the catagory of some of the group functions at TMI...?

I have no idea...it may not even be possible to have a different person enhance the results of someone else in anyway....?

BC/EC

wizopeva, somewhere around September 11, 2003

I've played around a bit with that kind of thing, but haven't noticed any obvious resulting improvement.  Of course, it was hardly a scientific effort, LOL!
-E

kboyken, somewhere around September 12, 2003

Isn't this the kind of situation where you'd expect to get telepathic overlay?  It might not enhance results at all.

Karl

energycritter, somewhere around September 12, 2003

Karl, you are probably correct...

BC/EC

T-bone, somewhere around September 12, 2003

Hmmm...  I think it might be self-defeating.  Sort of like two sets of Lan cables put to closely together with no shielding.  There might be a fair amount of "cross-talk" or signal mixing going on.  It could make a mess of things, but who knows....  ???

admin, somewhere around September 12, 2003

This has some research behind it--at least, a few versions of it.  

I call the concept 'tandem psi' just as a term.  That's not anything official.

In RV, by default in a formal environ, that is already the situation.  Who's the second person?--the monitor!

Of course, the monitor cannot be working in tandem psi if the monitor knows the target (in which case it isn't psi, and any potential psi, being very subtle, is masked under the obvious), so obviously, that element must be done within protocol, with the monitor properly blind.

I can't tell you how often viewers or monitors say it was the precisely right question, right wording, right moment, that seemed to be the critical point in a viewer's session for the data most-needed.  There is more psi than merely about the target, but also about the viewer, about the whole combined situation, that comes into play.  The monitor's role is not solely to record or prompt; a simple list of questions or a tape recorder could do that, after all.

I might add that in psi research in general, they've looked into 'tandem psi' in various situations, to see if some people combine better than others.  Last time I read up on this, they had found that people with an existing positive relationship, such as immediate family members and spouses, did better (than strangers).  

A very experienced occultist friend of mine, when I shared the details I was reading about this with him probably 10 years ago, said, "Yes--it's that way in magick, too--by far the most intense result would be with two people who are fiercely attracted to one another but haven't consummated that union."  I found that an interesting idea.

They have also done research with many different settings, in terms of viewers  in proximity to each other etc.  A long time ago I went through this stuff with some researchers when such questions came up for me, but it's been many years and my mind has obviously deemed it of lesser import as I can't recall it all now.  Sorry.  But it has been researched.  I don't know how much has been published on it though.

PJ

energycritter, somewhere around September 12, 2003

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A very experienced occultist friend of mine, when I shared the details I was reading about this with him probably 10 years ago, said, "Yes--it's that way in magick, too--by far the most intense result would be with two people who are fiercely attracted to one another but haven't consummated that union."  I found that an interesting idea.

PJ
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Yea....very interesting idea indeed.

I have a few of Crowley's, and other's, books on this and other related topics.

Crowley's most successful and as you mentioned, "intense" results were from the combining of efforts, desires and other suchlike ellements of two people. The timing of such ventures played a part also.

Tandem does have its appeal to me....my energies work well with others.

BC/EC

energycritter, somewhere around September 12, 2003

What about long distance Tandem psi.....does that work well....if you time it with someone else.....just thinking out loud.....?

BC

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