Topic [210] Herbs, Caffeine Effects on  RV, Telepathy TKR Remote Viewing Forum November 2003

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The_Spook, somewhere around November 24, 2003

OK guys I got one for ya.

Does anyone out there or has anyone out there ever noticed that if they drink coffee, or take certain types of herbs (I'm not referring to narcotics here, just plain ol' over the counter type health food store stuff, herbs you can buy for health) that it enhances their telepathy, psychic ability, and/or Remote Viewing capabilities?

I'm beginning to think it can, or does.  I recall reading something somewhere about caffeine doing this.  Anyone else?  

Gene_Smith, somewhere around November 24, 2003

Hello Spook,

I am of the impression that anything that would raise one's vitality and or level of alertness would be an asset in a CRV type of session.  Though that could just be the coffee talking.   ;)

My teacher used the standard of a martial arts contest.  If I was too tired to step into ring then I was too tired to expect decent results from a session.  Not always an obtainable standard for most when paying work takes priority, but I think the point is a good one.

Asside from coffee, of which I drink huge amounts daily.  I did try using Tahitian Noni Juice daily for several months, and though it may have been psychological I honestly felt like it not only just made me feel better in general but did improve my "psi".  Which of course could have simply been a result of my feeling better in general though I suppose it doesn't particlarly matter what the mechanic of it was, it did seem to help.  I only stopped cause it seemed way too expensive, but as I sit here reading myself I think I should go get some more.

Best regards,
Gene

The_Spook, somewhere around November 24, 2003

This is interesting Gene.  I have noticed I become more sensitive to my "psychic side" if you will, when I drink coffee, and I'm not a coffee drinker anymore (maybe I need to take it up again).  Also, when I take regular doses of B12, seems to help (Dames even talked about how you burn off a lot of B12 when you RV); also, I note when I take any kind of herb supplement with Ma Huang in it, it seems to drastically increase my sensory perception and telepathic abilities.  It must be an energy thing.  

shr33m, somewhere around November 25, 2003

Caffeine will certainly keep you from dozing off during a session. :)  Like all stimulants, it does give you a temporary shot in the arm.

Doing any kind of psi, psychic, or rv work requires energy, especially the type labelled mana, prana, qi, ki, or just plain psychic energy. Energy work is always concerned with the accumulation, storage, refinement, and free flow of energy. But it has advantages over stimulants - it's longer lasting, obtainable anywhere anytime without having to buy it, and the body just loves it.

It's been said that we generally use a small percentage of our brains rather than the full 100%. The brain is the largest consumer of energy and oxygen in the body. The body has basically set the brain to power-saving mode in order to conserve energy. If you wanted to increase the percentage utilization of your brain, then you would have to up your energy requirements and increase your power input to your body. Your other organs would need to be put in balance to support the needs of the few, in the interests of harmony in the system.

You'd have to breathe more efficiently to get more oxygen in each breath and use more of it and transport it to more cells and increase output, detoxification, and expiration of more garbage that piles up, as well as up your intake of prana or qi and store more of it, remove energy blockages that prevent the energy going to where it needs to. But then, you'd also have to make some sacrifices and give up certain life-energy depriving lifestyles and foods and thoughts.

I can just see you now, flocking to yoga and qigong classes to satisfy those needs. :) But hey, at least you'd be using more of your brain to access some supernormal mental powers that lie dormant, just like some of our ancestors did in the distant past.

;)

jimk, somewhere around November 26, 2003

[quote]Caffeine will certainly keep you from dozing off during a session.   Like all stimulants, it does give you a temporary shot in the arm.[/quote]

Yes, but it is also very effective at keeping you out of a Low-Alpha/High-Theta state.  That's where I like hanging out, so for me, a good workout before, a glass of wine or ONE beer, not 2 or 3...works good. You can have 2 or 3 martinis after, if it was a good hit, but not otherwise.  We're so much like Pavlov's dogs  :-)


[quote]Doing any kind of psi, psychic, or rv work requires energy, especially the type labelled mana, prana, qi, ki, or just plain psychic energy.[/quote]

Nicely put, it is interesting how some people just assumes that ESP magically "works" without any sort of manipulation or information transfer, this requires not more or less of energy, but just knowing how to USE it.

Jim K.

weewizard, somewhere around November 27, 2003

Spook,

In the sessions I've done caffeine definitely seems to help rather than hinder. The worst thing to be is too tired or sleepy, as your body will take this opportunity to get the rest you so desperately need. I think it's also possible to have too much caffeine or stimulant and not be able to get in Theta. I've also discovered that I work well with a theta-delta CD that will help my mind get into the specific brain wave format quickly and keep me there while I'm doing the work. It becomes enough like white noise that I don't notice it in the background when the data starts to flow in.

One of the other benefits to practice is that you get to know the specific bodily feelings and response associated with the proper levels of Theta and Alpha. This helps you to gauge when you are at the correct level for certain types of information. I've found that if I've had too much caffeine my problem with AOL drive is increased. So there seems to be a balance. With me it's about 1-2 cups of coffee.

Hope that helps,
ww

admin, somewhere around November 30, 2003

I've heard from good viewers I know that a good dose of exercise at least 20 minutes prior to the session does well for them.  I haven't tried much of that.

Caffeine only helps me in regards to staying awake.  I'm so chronically sleep deprived it makes sessions damn difficult; I sit down to do one and am snoring instantly.

Now and then I take 'liquid vitamins' and I am always amazed at how quickly I can really feel the 'pep' from them.  But after several days of them, I always end up having some dream that makes me think my body, despite that it feels good, doesn't think this is a good thing (like I'll dream I'm at a doctor's office and someone is chronically throwing up what looks exactly like the vitamin stuff).  So I am not sure what that means; perhaps I should just not take the stuff except occasionally.  

There are theories that any skill -- from singing to martial arts to whatever -- is dependent on the overall health of the individual.  E.g., that fat opera singer may be great, but it's possible if she were in better physical shape she'd be even better.  I suppose this is probably true to varying degrees.  

I don't know the mechanism of RV.  I don't know if it's the energy body chakras, if it's solely 'the mind', if signals are moving through our nervous system to the mind, or a combination of a ton of things--nobody yet knows everything that is involved in the overall process of psychic functioning.  So, I don't know what physiological factors will influence it.  But I do know that generally the better I feel, the better my viewing is likely to be, and this could even be for psychological reasons, too!

PJ

sunshine4u, somewhere around December 2, 2003

interesting enough back in 2002 I was taking a diet supplement containing Ma Haung.   It was during that time when my psychic abilities was at its highest peak.
I am no longer taking this supplement and my psychic abilities is not as sharp now as it was then.  After reading this thread I am begining to believe that this herb have some effect on psychic abilities.   Eventhou, this herb was very effective, I am no longer taking it because I read about some of the different side effects that is associated with this herb.

The_Spook, somewhere around December 2, 2003

sunshine4u:  I experienced the same thing.  Very, in some cases radically, heightened telepathic abilities and bouts of "psychic periods" where I swear, I felt like I was a human crystal ball  ;-) .  I also took a diet supplement with Ma Huang in it - and never experienced any of the side effects that have gotten everyone so up in arms about it (like Phen Fen).  In fact I think there's only been very few people who had problems with Ma Huang but of course they went and took those few examples, and are beginning to ban it all over the place.  Interesting that they take these two things off the market.  You begin to wonder if its for the reasons they state, or something else.  

Is there some link to what we're saying (increased pyschic ability) and the herbs?  

Are we on to something?   Does the government know this, and is this why suddenly, all this stuff is getting banned?  Seriously, makes me wonder sometimes....I really do.  I recently again started taking a mild diet supplement with Ma Huang in it again.  I only take the prescribed amount per day.  I'm not experiencing any side effects, pain, palpitations, or shortness of breath.  I have more energy and feel better and have a more positive outlook.  

And I'm not kidding you, my telepathy and my intuition is increasing again.  

sunshine4u, somewhere around December 3, 2003

Spook,

I definitely feel that we are on to something.  I never experience any side effects and like yourself I felt like I was a human crystal ball.  I never felt better.  It has been a puzzle for me to figure out what in the heck was going on in 2002 to increase my psychic abilities to that heighten level.  I have been tossing back and forth rather or not to go back on the herb.  This morning, before I read this thread I have decided to go back on it.
I believe it is okay to take the herb as long as you take the precribed daily dose.  I need to the feel the way I felt in 2002, the energy, positive attitude and all.  

I have not seen any link regarding Ma Huang enhancing  psychic abilities.  I will began a search.

The_Spook, somewhere around December 3, 2003

I found this on a search:

What do you feel about the herb "Ma Huang" and all it's effects?
Ma Huang is considered to be an inferior herb in Chinese herbalism, which means it has powerful medicinal effects, but can have side effects when used improperly. Ma Huang is actually a great herb, but the way it's used commonly, specifically as a stimulant or in many of the diet formulations, it can have side effects that have negatively influenced our view of that herb. Ma Huang is an excellent herb when used for conditions such as upper respiratory problems such as head colds, bronchitis, asthma, allergies and so on. When provided by a health care practitioner who understands what they are doing. Also, there are good studies that Ma Huang can help to reduce fat stores in the body when combined with caffeine or caffeine-like substances and aspirin or aspirin-like substances. When carefully prepared, and taken moderately, these products are often quite effective. But probably most people should use them under the direction of a health care practitioner who understands them, if they're going to use them. Frankly, there are probably better ways to get energy and lose weight than to use Ma Huang.

I'm looking for an herb that will curb my appetite and I just can't find one. Do you have any particular ones you could recommend?
An excessive appetite probably shows some imbalance in your functions that can be corrected by using regulatory formulas. In Chinese herbalism, that might be a formula like (for example) ginseng and astragalus combination. Also, some people create excess food for many reasons. Another cause could be a sugar imbalance. If that's the case, many have found that eating a handful of lycium fruit a couple of times a day for a couple of weeks will help regulate that craving. Also, this is where Ma Huang influences might be helpful under the care of a practitioner. There are also other interesting herbs that have a similar activity called a thermogenic action that helps to burn fat and sometimes reduce appetite. I have another suggestion. Chew your food very well. It's known that after you've eaten for 10 or 15 minutes, it starts to be registered by the body. So if you eat slowly, the body gets in tune with it and you actually end up eating less.

What was the first medicinal herb? Guess!
Humans probably used herbs prior to the time they were human. There are excellent studies of monkeys and apes in the jungle that use herbs when they become ill. Humans have probably used herbs since the beginning. The first herbs used for medicine were probably to help ease stomach disorders. The Chinese recorded 360 herbs in the first herbal text written 2500 years ago. They divided the herbs into 3 categories: the superior, general and inferior herbs. The superior herbs were herbs that people could take like food as often as they wanted to promote a long and healthy life. That included herbs like ginseng and reishi mushrooms. The general herbs were considered preventative. They included herbs that helped to nip problems in the bud, like Ma Huang. The inferior herbs were used for infections and diseases. They included herbs similar to Golden Seal. My guess would be that on the medicinal side, an herb like Golden Seal has been used since deep prehistoric times. At the same time, herbs like ginseng have been used to increase energy and resistance equally as long. Heart disease runs ramped in our family; anything from clogged arteries to Marfan's Syndrome.

Is there any herb you can suggest for that? Thanks.
First of all, I want to emphasize that if you have a disease or a sickness that you're dealing with, you should always use herbs under the care of a professional, an M.D., or an acupuncturist. And yes, there are excellent herbs that help to improve the functioning, and benefit the functions of the cardiovascular system, including some of the following - gynostemma, notoginseng, salvia root, and carthamus flower. That last is also known as saffron. These herbs help to improve the flow of blood through the vascular system and are in use now around the world in many systems. Two others that are really useful would be hawthorn fruit and leaf, used throughout Europe and Asia. Another is the reishi mushroom. There are many other herbs that are useful. This is an area where the use of herbs is great because they're safe, and if you take them regularly, you keep your arteries clean, prevent plaque from building up, and some improve the actual functioning of the cardiovascular muscle itself. Some prevent inflammations from developing, which could have led to cardiovascular disease. An herb commonly in use now to prevent conditions such as varicose veins is horse chestnut. That herb is being used around the world for that purpose. Also, many times these herbs are combined. That broadens the benefit.

I'm sitting here with a god-awful head cold. Besides Echinacea, what can help from an herbal standpoint?
Head colds are, of course, common in winter and spring. This is what Ma Huang formulas were traditionally used for. There are excellent, safe and mild formulas that are quite effective. One is pureria. It's commonly available. That will help clear your head and your sinuses, and speed recovery. It's excellent. It's best, from our point of view, to try to reduce your immune system to avoid the colds in the first place. People take tonic herbs for that purpose. They tend to catch colds less often. The herbs used to build resistance include reishi mushrooms, astragalus, cordyceps, lycium fruit, etc. Also, if someone starts to catch the flu, where they feel a sore throat and that kind of thing, there's Yin Qiao, which has been used for centuries. If taken at the onset of the flu it's extremely effective.

You discuss in your book the notion that these tonic herbs are empowering. What do you mean by that? What do these herbs have to do with wisdom?
The herbal tradition in China went along 2 different tracks, united but somewhat different. One was medicinal. The herbs used by doctors to treat sickness after it occurred. The other was called superior herbalism and utilized tonic herbs. Tonic herbalism was developed primarily by the Taoists, and was used to build inner power, inner peace, and balance in the body, balanced mental and psychic functions. The Chinese believed that when the body became strong and balanced and at ease, then the person could more effectively develop their spiritual functions to a higher level. We have found that when people take a real tonic herbal program, using high quality real tonics, that by becoming centered and becoming adaptive, that they can accomplish more; that they can become more creative; that they can handle much more difficulty and overcome it, and therefore achieve more. They develop more vision, their endurance increases, even their depth of feeling can expand. Based on this, people take these herbs and often become more successful. They can accomplish their dreams. Therefore, the herbs, over many centuries, have been used specifically for the purpose of empowerment.

Anotherdreamer, somewhere around December 3, 2003

     "Live as if your were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." -Mahatma Gandhi
        



Hello,
When you first began this thread I thought….  perhaps some herbs and stimulants could have some effect on RV and telepathy.  I'm pretty sure now that some may have more than others. As I go back through my journals I see a pattern developing.  Some of my strongest telepathic hits have been around asthmatic flare-ups.  Now I'm wondering if the teas I drink may be influencing my intuitive skills. One of my favorite is Yogi tea.  I will say.  It is a bit of a let down if this turns out to be the case.

My research on the subject turned up this ...thought I would share.

2.19 Ma Huang or Ephedra sinica




From T. R. Hastrup:

Ephedra contains ephedrine which is a drug very similar to adrenaline but with a longer halflife. It acts on exactly the same receptors as adrenaline does and has exactly the same side effects and dangers. It does not induce hallucinations and it's stimulative effect is not very far from caffeine. Even when taken in extreme doses with constant use, it is questionable if ephedrine can cause a psychosis. It has nowhere the power to push the body to the limits. I know some people out there love to spread scare but ephedrine is a very safe and natural drug. The only dangers from ephedrine is because it can cause high blood pressure and vaso-constriction, exactly like adrenaline. People with high blood pressure or heart problems should naturally be careful with this herb.

Also, ephedrine is chemically related to the amphetamines but everybody should know that similarity in molecular structures does not mean the action of the drugs are similar. Ephedrine acts purely on adrenergic receptors, unlike the amphetamines which have powerful CNS stimulative effects.

wizopeva, somewhere around December 6, 2003

I think the deal with ephedra is that it has to be taken in context.  A football player goes out in 100 degree heat and exercises in a full padding and clothing until he begins to overheat and throws up on the field.  His coach tell him to rest for 10 minutes and then get back out there.  A few hours later he keels over and dies.  Later it is discoverd that he was taking ephedra.  Yeah well so was half of the team most likely!  The news then says his death was linked to ephedra.  Well I'm willing to get that the big prob was overexercise, high heat, lack of hydration, and just general stupidity on the part of humans.  

Meanwhile, hundreds of people die DIRECTLY from allergic reactions to aspirin yet no one cries that it should be banned.  Lets use some common sense here.  Taking outrageous amounts of any stimilant can be dangerous, especially if one has blood pressure probs, heart probs, etc.  And with any drug, one needs to proceed cautiously and listen to your body.   I haven't yet heard of anyone dieing from using ephedra.  I have heard of people for instance taking outrageous amounts of ephedra in order to stay awake and study for days on end and cram for exams while eating tons of sugar and little else and then having a heart attack or somesuch.  Later it turns out they had a heart defect or whatever.  Again, I'd say that the primary problem was stupidity and major abuse.  

I have taken Primatene tabs for many years to treat my asthma.  THe active ingredient is taken from ephedra.  It's similar to the active ingredient in Psuedophed.  If the medical industry is so concerned about ephedra, then why do they use it an at least two of their own products eh?  And psuedophed is for use in a sick person whose body is already weakened.  Sheesh!  

ANyway, I've noticed that it works well for a number of things including obviously asthma, which it is marketed for, as well as allergies in general, appetite abatement, and as a stimulant.  I mostly use it for asthma (both tabs and inhaler form but but prefer inhaler as less goes into the system.  But tabs are stronger).  But I also use it for long car rides when I'm the driver.  No matter how much sleep I get, driving makes me intensely sleepy after about a half hour and so I need a stimulant that works and works well.  I like ephedra because I know how it works with my body and how much and when I need to take it to get the right effect.  

Interestingly, I know of a number of others who have discovered the Primatine tabs (tabs are the only ones good for overall stimulant effects) for the same purpose.  I've heard that the whole drug in ma huang form, instead of just synthetic tabs that use only the active chemical, are more easy and gentle on the body.  However, primatine is easier to get a hold of, cheaper, and shorter acting, which is good if you don't want to be jazzed for half the night.  

As for caffeine, it seems to have little effect on me other than as a diuretic and as a mild addiction, so I don't bother much with it.   I haven't noticed anything much as far as drugs or vitamins that has a major effect on my psi.  However, I have noticed that it may be that active energies and psi have some correlation with my incidence of asthma in that more active energies equals more asthma.   I don' t pretend to understand it but maybe there is an imbalance in there somewhere that shows up more when energies are running high.  So in response a previous suggestion, it may be that it's not the asthma drug that causes psi, but that the asthma itself is correlatied with psi.  Anyway, just another thing to ponder.

Oh and on the subject of appetite control, I've always been an overeater myself.  Lately, I decided to eliminate junk carbohydrates (french fries, bread, potatoes, cookies, etc) from my diet and after 3 days of intense craving, have seemed to kick the craving habit.  I now eat much more normally and don't crave food until my body actually needs some.  It's a wonderful feeling to not have to want food so much all the time.  I think it was those damn carbs playing havoc with my blood sugar and overall balance.  However, I do think ma huang is a great appetite reducer.  But I would absolutely not recommend it over the long haul, and I can't think of any diet plan that is any good if it isn't good for you over the long haul.  
-E

EricT, somewhere around December 6, 2003

Hey all-

I read somewhere about someone (I think it was Dames) saying that heacy RVing can burn up alot of vitamin B12.  Its always good to take a multivitamin, I checked mine and it runs 3,333% of RDA of B12.  Not that the RDA is worth anything, but its in there.

I wouldnt know about anything caffienated, stay away from the stuff personally.  -)ont even like taking aspirin, heh.

On Evas post- people do be careful with ephedra stuff.  (sounds like you are, Eva, just reinforcing the idea) Anything that raises the heart rate should be tested out in small amounts.  I know someone who got heart damage from phen-phen (sp).  Nasty stuff.  That was FDA approved too, until it started killing people.  Nice testing FDA.  I mean, really.

Getting off subject, but just wanted to stick in my 2 cents.

Eric

Anotherdreamer, somewhere around December 6, 2003

Eva, you said…
As for caffeine, it seems to have little effect on me other than as a diuretic and as a mild addiction, so I don't bother much with it.    

You may want to consider caffeine as a medicinal aid for asthma. I use it along with deep breathing exercises to relieve asthmatic symptoms.

I rarely use the heavy drugs that modern doctors prescribe.  I prefer natural and holistic remedies when ever possible.


I will ponder on your thoughts.

shr33m, somewhere around December 7, 2003

If you want herbal alternatives to caffeine, try Siberian ginseng and gotu kola.

"It is regarded as one of the most spiritual and rejuvenating herbs in Ayurveda and is used to improve meditation. It is said to develop the crown chakra, the energy center at the top of the head, and to balance the right and left hemispheres of the brain."

A session will use more of your brain so its nutrient,  oxygen, and energy requirements will increase. There are liquid vitamins that can be sprayed under the tongue for faster and greater assimilation. A possible alternative to an oxygen tank are products like Oxy-Moxy. And it won't hurt to do neck rolls to stimulate circulation to the brain and deep breathing exercises beforehand.

admin, somewhere around December 11, 2003

I definitely need to add more caffeine to MY remote viewing.  I have slept instead of viewed for the last three nights.  Sigh!  ZzzzzzzzRV.

PJ

Anotherdreamer, somewhere around December 12, 2003

[quote]I definitely need to add more caffeine to MY remote viewing.  I have slept instead of viewed for the last three nights.  Sigh!  ZzzzzzzzRV.

PJ[/quote]

Or your body needed sleep more than your mind needed to RV. ::)

admin, somewhere around December 12, 2003

Yeah.  I'm sleeping through my alarm, late for stuff in the morning, and retiring early at night, too.  I don't know what's up.  Lots of deep personal stuff brewing somewhere inside me though.  I suppose it is getting ready to pop and surprise me with whatever it's cooking up.  ;-)

Anotherdreamer, somewhere around December 12, 2003

[quote]Yeah.  I'm sleeping through my alarm, late for stuff in the morning, and retiring early at night, too.  I don't know what's up.  Lots of deep personal stuff brewing somewhere inside me though.  I suppose it is getting ready to pop and surprise me with whatever it's cooking up.  ;-)[/quote]

That or your body feels winter and wants to kick into to hibernation mode.  I think we all need to do that sometimes. It doesn’t all have to mean we are sick, depressed or on the verge of a biggie…If we have any “reptilian brain” We probably also have the ol’ “reptilian body” too.   LOL  Go with the flow.    ;)

energycritter, somewhere around December 12, 2003

Has anyone ever used or tried Kava Kava for RV and/or any psi functioning enhancement?

It is known and used for relaxation, but, its affect can be varied, depends on the human.

ag0g0girl, somewhere around December 12, 2003

Gotu Kola is known to have some psi effects, but can cause high blood pressure.

Lots of college students take this with Ginko Biloba on exam cram weeks.

I want to try the Ma Huang tho.

I also like flower essences
http://www.fesflowers.com/
These are relatively inexpensive, and easy to take...I just put it in my water.

shr33m, somewhere around December 13, 2003

[quote]

Lots of college students take this with Ginko Biloba on exam cram weeks.

[/quote]

Well, if you want to improve brain functions for memory and exams, then take

Galantamine
Bacopa
Vinpocetine
Huperzine

You could certainly use Bach flower essences such as olive for those exhaustive sessions that drain you.

wizopeva, somewhere around December 19, 2003

[quote]

You may want to consider caffeine as a medicinal aid for asthma. I use it along with deep breathing exercises to relieve asthmatic symptoms.

I rarely use the heavy drugs that modern doctors prescribe.  I prefer natural and holistic remedies when ever possible.


I will ponder on your thoughts.
[/quote]


Yup, I prefer holistic stuff too if I can find something that works.  Actually, some of those favorite asthma drugs from the docs don't work well for me.  I tend to develop immunity from all symptoms (including beneficial ones) quite rapidly with many drugs.  That may be what has happened with caffeine too.  It has no perceivable stimulant effect on me whatsoever and sadly does not help my asthma either.  On the other hand, ephedra habituation seems slow and manageable for me.  It doesn't seem to hurt my viewing skills either, although nothing seems to obviously do that other than being too sleepy and falling asleep or being to tired and wanting to quit early.  
-E

kboyken, somewhere around December 20, 2003

There's been a lot of buzz about galantamine lately.  I think LaBerge mentioned it at some dream conference.  It's supposed to really enhance dream recall and increases the incidence of lucid dreaming.  I haven't tried it yet, myself, but I know several people who have and report some good effects.

Then again, simply taking a vitamin B supplement can also enhance dream recall and lucidity.

Karl

[quote]

Well, if you want to improve brain functions for memory and exams, then take

Galantamine
Bacopa
Vinpocetine
Huperzine

You could certainly use Bach flower essences such as olive for those exhaustive sessions that drain you.

[/quote]

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